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Blue Bar Futures Trading Mgt LLC - U.S. Commodity Diversified Prg



Principal(s): Robert Wieneke
Strategy: Long Short Spreads / Diversified / Commodities
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Investment Restrictions: 4.7 Exempt - QEPs Only
Statistical Reports are Subscription Based

Statistics & Program Information

Oct 2025 Return   -0.33% Worst Drawdown (2)    -11.24% Minimum Investment   $200,000
YTD Return: 1.77% Losing Streak (3):  -0.33% AUM (5):  $10,426,124
Annualized CROR(1)  11.35% Sharpe Ratio 4% RF ROR(4):  0.72 Calmar Ratio (6):  N/A
2) Annualized ACROR is based on compounding. Please see Footnotes for more information.
Trading Methodology
60% Systematic
40% Discretionary
Style Sub-Categories
Fundamental
Momentum
Pattern Recognition
Option Writer
Option Spread
Other Option Strategy
Volatility
Trend Anticipatory
Mean Reversion
Relative Value
Trading Style
25% Trend Following
10% Contrarian
30% Spread Trading
20% Option Trading
15% All others
Market Sector
5% Financials
5% Agriculturals
85% Meats
5% Others
Holding Period
5% Long Term
25% Medium Term
60% Short Term
10% Intraday
Geographic Sector
US
Contracts:
Futures
Options

Start Date   Feb-2017 Currency   US Dollar Management Fee    2.00%
Accepting New Accounts   No Min Investment    $200,000 Incentive Fee    20.00%
NFA Member    Yes Fund Minimum    $0 Other Fees   None
NFA Number    0438829 Margin (7)   0-50% Avg Comm (8)   $5.00
Notional Funds    Yes Round Turns Per Million (10)    5,400 Max Comm (9)   5.00
Starting Date:  Feb-2017 Currency:  US Dollar
Open to New Investors:  No Current Assets:  $10,426,124
Open to US Investors:  Yes Annualized CROR:  10.91%
Minimum Fund Investment:  $0
Minimum Managed Account:  $200,000 Current Losing Streak:  -0.33 %
Domocile:   Calmar:  N/A
Subscriptions:  N/A Sharpe Ratio: 4% RF ROR  0.72
Redemptions:  N/A US Attorney:  Not Listed
Lock Up:  N/A Offshore Attorney:  Not Listed
Hurdle Rate:  N/A Administrator:  Not Listed
Administraton Fee:  0.00% Prime Broker:  Not Listed
Management Fee:  2.00% Auditor:  Not Listed
Incentive Fee:  20.00% NFA Member:  Yes
Selling Fee:  0.00% FINRA Member:  No
Other Fees:  None Other Memberships:  Certified Market Technician (CMT)
Type of Fund:
Domicile:
Strategy:

Track Record Prepared By: CTA Services
Correlations:

Growth of $1,000 VAMI and Monthly Returns

Trading Description, Risk Strategy & Background

The Blue Bar U.S. Commodity Diversified Program seeks to achieve capital appreciation through the execution of outright long/short and spread strategies identified by technical and fundamental analysis to identify potentially low-risk trade opportunities. The trade execution methodology used for the program is based on a process that is approximately 60% systematic and 40% discretionary. This program trades a wide variety of U.S. commodity markets, including meats, grains, metals, energies, financial indices, bonds, currencies, and softs.

Trade duration for spreads varies widely, from one to three days up to several months; though individual "legs" of a particular spread may be modified over time to establish a new spread position. In extreme market situations, a spread may be converted to a directional position for a relatively brief period of time. Many spread positions may be considered "scalps" that are completed intraday or are held for a short period of time, designed to take advantage of a market anomaly. Certain relatively small spread positions may also be held for longer periods of time, to attempt to capture a potential opportunity outside of typical seasonal spread patterns.

The Advisor monitors both fundamental and technical factors associated with each trade on a continuous basis, and a 3% to 5% adverse movement in the underlying commodity's price would generally be cause for liquidation of the trade.

Robert Wieneke is the President of Blue Bar Futures. He is responsible for overall management, trading, marketing, and investor relations. He became a listed principal of Blue Bar Futures in February 2012 and became registered as an associated person in March 2012. Mr. Wieneke has more than 30 years of experience in trading futures and options on futures, with nearly two decades spent as a floor trader and floor broker. He became a registered floor trader in July 1994 and a registered floor broker in August 1995. He withdrew his registration as a floor broker in October 2013 in order to focus more closely on his Blue Bar Futures business activities.

Born in 1956 and raised in the northern suburbs of Chicago, Mr. Wieneke served in the United States Marine Corps and was honorably discharged in 1979. He began working on the floor of the Chicago Board Options Exchange as a stock order clerk and a phone clerk in 1980. He began trading as a market maker in 1983 in the S&P 100 options pit. In the early 1990s he became a Chicago Mercantile Exchange member and traded in the S&P 500 futures pit as a "local", where he developed and refined multiple option and futures spread trading strategies. Mr. Wieneke has been a member and traded on the floor of the Chicago Board Options Exchange, Chicago Board of Trade, and the Chicago Mercantile Exchange.

Mr. Wieneke began trading electronically shortly after Globex (the Chicago Mercantile Exchange's electronic trading platform) was introduced in 1992. During that time, he also started using CQG, a computer-based charting, trading and technical analysis software product. He continues to assist in CQG's charting and trading platform development efforts as an alpha tester and consultant. In 2000, Mr. Wieneke left the floor and became a full time electronic trader. Using his extensive knowledge in experience in arbitrage, spread trading and hedging, he has developed algorithmic trading strategies used by Blue Bar Futures. In March 2014, he successfully passed all three levels of study and was awarded the Chartered Market Technician (CMT) designation from the Market Technicians Association.

Performance

Monthly Performance Since Feb 2017

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Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov DecRORMax DD
2025 0.58% -1.27% -0.16% 0.29% 1.40% 0.41% -0.21% 0.43% 0.63% -0.33%   1.76% -1.43%
2024 -0.80% 2.11% 1.09% 1.57% -1.50% 0.20% 1.12% -0.26% 0.81% -0.18% -0.90% -0.27% 2.96% -1.50%
2023 4.11% 0.27% -1.77% 1.22% -2.24% 2.84% 0.47% -1.67% -0.15% 1.11% 0.56% -0.36% 4.28% -2.80%
2022 -1.01% 1.37% -1.16% 1.91% 1.12% -1.15% -1.14% 0.12% -0.90% 0.72% 0.66% -2.57% -2.11% -4.22%
2021 2.50% 0.06% 2.10% -3.98% 4.09% 4.82% 1.28% 0.34% 0.68% -2.43% 1.44% 0.95% 12.15% -3.98%
2020 1.76% -0.52% 0.68% -3.77% 4.96% 2.66% -0.67% -1.54% 3.90% 0.99% -0.65% -1.37% 6.27% -3.77%


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Annual Performance

PAST PERFORMANCE DOES NOT GUARANTEE FUTURE SUCCESS. THERE IS A RISK OF LOSS IN FUTURES TRADING.
THERE IS UNLIMITED RISK OF LOSS ASSOCIATED WITH WRITING SHORT OPTION CONTRACTS.

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Footnotes

1. The Annualized Compounded ROR ("Rate of Return") is the average return of an investment over a number of years. It smoothes out returns by assuming constant growth. 2. Peak to Valley Drawdown ("Maximum Drawdown") is the worst drawdown % the time-period. 3. Sharpe Ratio uses a 4% Risk Free ROR (Rate of Return) 4. Calmar Ratio Uses last 36 months of Data 5. The hypothetical growth of $1,000

++Qualified Eligible Investors Only:

A Qualified Eligible Person must meet the following two requirements: 1) the investor must first be an accredited investor. The most common ways for this are to either have a net worth of $1,000,000 or more OR an annual income of $200,000 or more for the last two years OR, combined with a spouse, $300,000 per year for two years, 2) the investor must meet an additional portfolio requirement, which is having $4,000,000 in securities holdings OR the person must have on deposit with a Futures Commission Merchant at least $400,000 in exchange-specified initial margin and option premiums, and required minimum security deposit for retail forex transactions).

Exemptions:

PURSUANT TO AN EXEMPTION FROM THE COMMODITY FUTURES TRADING COMMISSION IN CONNECTION WITH THE ACCOUNTS OF QUALIFIED ELIBIBLE PERSONS, THIS BROCHURE OR ACCOUNT DOCUMENT IS NOT REQUIRED TO BE, AND HAS NOT BEEN, FILED WITH THE COMMISSION. THE COMMODITY FUTURES TRADING COMMISSION DOES NOT PASS UPON THE MERITS OF PARTICIPATING IN A TRADING PROGRAM OR UPON THE ADEQUANCY OR ACCURACY OF THE COMMODITY TRADING ADVISOR DISCLOSURE. CONSEQUENTLY, THE COMMODITY FUTURES TRADING COMMISSION HAS NOT REVIEWED OR APPROVED THIS TRADING PROGRAM OR THIS BROCHURE OR ACCOUNT DOCUMENT.

RISK DISCLOSURE

THIS MATTER IS INTENDED AS A SOLICITATION FOR MANAGED FUTURES. THE RISK OF TRADING COMMODITY FUTURES, OPTIONS, FOREIGN EXCHANGE ('FOREX') AND/OR CRYPTOCURRENCIES IS SUBSTANTIAL. THE HIGH DEGREE OF LEVERAGE ASSOCIATED WITH COMMODITY FUTURES, OPTIONS AND FOREX CAN WORK AGAINST YOU AS WELL AS FOR YOU. THIS HIGH DEGREE OF LEVERAGE CAN RESULT IN SUBSTANTIAL LOSSES, AS WELL AS GAINS. YOU SHOULD THEREFORE CAREFULLY CONSIDER WHETHER SUCH TRADING IS SUITABLE FOR YOU IN LIGHT OF YOUR FINANCIAL CONDITION. IF YOU ARE UNSURE YOU SHOULD SEEK PROFESSIONAL ADVICE. AN INVESTOR MUST READ AND UNDERSTAND THE CTA’S CURRENT DISCLOSURE DOCUMENT BEFORE INVESTING. THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES OF PROFIT NO MATTER WHO IS MANAGING YOUR MONEY.

PAST PERFORMANCE DOES NOT GUARANTEE FUTURE SUCCESS. IN SOME CASES MANAGED ACCOUNTS ARE CHARGED SUBSTANTIAL COMMISSIONS AND ADVISORY FEES. THOSE ACCOUNTS SUBJECT TO THESE CHARGES, MAY NEED TO MAKE SUBSTANTIAL TRADING PROFITS JUST TO AVOID DEPLETION OF THEIR ASSETS. EACH COMMODITY TRADING ADVISOR ("CTA") IS REQUIRED BY THE COMMODITY FUTURES TRADING COMMISSION ("CFTC") TO ISSUE TO PROSPECTIVE CLIENTS A RISK DISCLOSURE DOCUMENT OUTLINING THESE FEES, CONFLICTS OF INTEREST AND OTHER ASSOCIATED RISKS. A HARD COPY OF THESE RISK DISCLOSURE DOCUMENTS ARE READILY AVAILABLE BY CLICKING ON EACH CTA'S "REQUEST DISCLOSURE DOCUMENT" BUTTON.

THE FULL RISK OF COMMODITY FUTURES, OPTIONS AND FOREX TRADING CAN NOT BE ADDRESSED IN THIS RISK DISCLOSURE STATEMENT. NO CONSIDERATION TO INVEST SHOULD BE MADE WITHOUT THOROUGHLY READING THE DISCLOSURE DOCUMENT OF EACH OF THE CTAS IN WHICH YOU MAY HAVE AN INTEREST. REQUESTING A DISCLOSURE DOCUMENT PLACES YOU UNDER NO OBLIGATION AND EACH DOCUMENT IS PROVIDED AT NO COST. THE CFTC HAS NOT PASSED UPON THE MERITS OF PARTICIPATING IN ANY OF THE FOLLOWING PROGRAMS NOR ON THE ADEQUACY OR ACCURACY OF THE DISCLOSURE DOCUMENTS. OTHER DISCLOSURE STATEMENTS ARE REQUIRED TO BE PROVIDED TO YOU BEFORE AN ACCOUNT MAY BE OPENED FOR YOU.

PAST PERFORMANCE IS NOT NECESSARILY INDICATIVE OF FUTURE RESULTS. PROSPECTIVE CLIENTS SHOULD NOT BASE THEIR DECISION ON INVESTING IN THIS TRADING PROGRAM SOLELY ON THE PAST PERFORMANCE PRESENTED. ADDITIONALLY, IN MAKING AN INVESTMENT DECISION, PROSPECTIVE CLIENTS MUST ALSO RELY ON THEIR OWN EXAMINATION OF THE PERSON OR ENTITY MAKING THE TRADING DECISIONS AND THE TERMS OF THE ADVISORY AGREEMENT INCLUDING THE MERITS AND RISKS INVOLVED.

AUTUMN GOLD CTA INDEXES ARE NON-INVESTABLE INDEXES COMPRISED OF THE CLIENT PERFORMANCE OF CTA PROGRAMS INCLUDED IN THE AUTUMN GOLD DATABASE AND DO NOT REPRESENT THE COMPLETE UNIVERSE OF CTAS. INVESTORS SHOULD NOTE THAT IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO INVEST IN THESE INDEXES.